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Serious Test Time
#1
Ok, we don't talk about it enough. Sure we know our immediate group are Christians and we all met at church. And we talk out loud here about prayer like when Jared is about to roll his Jeep, that when it pins him underneath that he'll go quickly or when Steve is looking up at us 30ft down in a cave laying in a pool of his own blood and God and the seat at Denny's only knows what else, mumbling about how all the rocks are pretty and how his daughter's techer Ursala is hot- over and over again... But all joking aside, (or maybe it's "yoking," it might be a "soft j" ), starting... now- I want you guys and gals to anti up and lay down your testimony for all to see.

I'm almost tempted to go first since I still remember when a long time ago, a friend of mine and I had to go around to the yourger guys' Bible studies and tell them our testimonies, he went first and actually stole my rehersed one because he didn't think his was as good enough. Yes I was without speech at that point but then afterwards gave an All Mighty Bible thumping beat down later, then asked him for forgiveness of course. BUT I came up with the topic so I will pass the torch now and then take it up later.

Testimony:
1. the statement or declaration of a witness under oath or affirmation
2. evidence in support of a fact or statement; proof.
3. open declaration or profession, as of faith.

Don't disapoint the tiny infant Jesus, or the teeneage bearded one either.

* Also, even if you're not a part of our immediate group but a member of our larger family, we'd be honored and would love to hear from you too.
#2
Well I guess I will go First since I am the only one that does not have to work tomorrow and I am still up.

As you know we all met at Chruch and that Church happend to be North Phoenix Baptist. When I was just a little Spshl J I attended there every Sunday, went to bible study, and even went to vacation bible study. I did not go with my family, I went with a friend of mine from school. Then when I got into JR High we moved and it was to far for me to get there on my own. As time passed I went less and less and about the time I went into high school I just stopped going.

I dont want to talk about what I did in HS without Jesus in my life but I was a jock so its not as bad as you think. I was a baseball and football player and I loved every second of it. My senior year in baseball I was on top of the world, trying out for major league teams, having diamond back scouts come and watch me pitch. I thought for sure I was gonna make it. Then shortly after HS I had my first of 2 surgeries on my shoulder. I spent months in physical therapy and finally came to the conclusion that it was over, my shoulder was done.

I really didnt know what to do, my whole life all I ever wanted to do was play baseball and I didnt know why this was happening to me. Not long after I realized baseball was not an option I bumped into a girl I liked from school, Jen. She was a couple years younger than me and had just graduated. We talked for a while and a couple days lated went on our first date. After getting to know eachother we realized that we both went to the same Church as kids, just different bible studies. So one day we decided to go back to North Phoenix and see if any of our old friends went to the Collage group there.

We showed up one Sunday in January with really no intentions other than seeing if any of our old friends were there. It just happend that the day we went was the day all the bible study teacher talked about what they were going to teach in the upcomming semester. I sat there looking at all the kids faces kina listeneing to what the teachers were saying when a guy walked up on stage. As Dan Gear started talking, for some reason it drew my attention and I was listening to everything he was saying. The more he talked the more I realized how much I had in common with him. He was a football and baseball player and was unable to play anymore, but he looked like he was doing alright. Then he started to talk about what he was going to teach, Christianity 101. After class was over I stood around and talked with him for a little while and decided I wanted to try his class. Little did I know that Jen had the same feeling I did and she also signed up for his class. She told me she want to start coming to Church and I didnt have to go with her if I didnt want to.

A short time after that we both reaccepted Christ into our lives. A few months later I wanted to get a little more involved with the collage group. The new movie "Left Behind" was coming out on video on Halloween and I wanted to have a movie night for the group. So I went up to this guy that mad a flyer for another event and I asked him if he could help me make a flyer for the movie night. For almost 3 years he and I and Jen were leaders in the collage group in charge of most of the event planning, flyers, and just about everything else we did.

Here we are almost 6 years later and that flyer guy now designed and maintaines the very site you are on, you all know him as Mike. As for the girl, check the members list and she is registered and NJEN. We have been together for 7 years now.

Everyone has heard the saying "everything happens for a reason". There is a reason Jen and I ran into eachother that day. There is a reason we started talking about the church we went to as kids. There is a reason we both went back to church to find our old friends. There is a reason that of all days we pick the day all the teachers went up front to talk. There is a reason that Dan Gear was teaching Chrisianity 101 that semester, and there is a reason Mike wanted to help me with that flyer.

I believe that reason is because God wants me to tell you this story today.

God Bless You all ( and little 8 pound 6 ounce infant baby Jesus too)
#3
I believe the reason, was that I was under the impression there was money involved in that flier job. Still haven't seen it though :)

Thanks J for sharing and not just giving the 5 second church answer but sharing a little more about yourself.

Next?
#4
If there was money involed in the flyer job I decided not to pay it when you called and woke me up at 3am every morning.

Why did you do this Mike, oh I remember. It was to tell me ideas you had about decorations for the set up of the movie night.

You see, I took $1 away for every hour of sleep I lost by taking your call while you were on your paper rout. So the way I see it you owe me money.

That sure was an awesome set up and a good turn out.
#5
*bump*

Times a wastin'
#6
Ok, I’ll bite the next bullet.

Nothing too special here. Won’t do the full life story version, b/c it would take too long, but here it goes. My story might be patchy as things come to me or as I choose to leave some things out so bear with me.

So I was a church kid. Always there it seemed, especially since my parents were in the choir and active in other things as well. I really don’t remember much of my childhood at all. Sometimes the fam will talk about something that happened that seems like I was excluded from but somehow it turns out it was just bundled in with things my memory put a block on. For example, apparently I took the hinges off the “secret Christmas closet” door for my brother and sis and I to find out what we were getting but it just sounds like somebody else’s story and I had been 13ish. But anyway, boring to you I guess, but there does seem to be plenty of gaps in my memory. There’s a few of Psychological reasons that could be applied, but this isn’t the time to explore those.
I do know my parents weren’t actually happy together and my dad had some serious problems with… um… loving females only my mother’s age I guess would be the best nondescript way to say it. So anyway, yadda, yadda, the divorced parents kids get the short end of the stick. My brother chooses my father over my mother, sister, and I; Dad gets his favorite son in likeness and in choice, and here we are later on down the road in Phoenix. Mom now lives in Sun City with, yes, a yard with painted green rocks, and Dana and I live together in a cozy condo and most of the time I feel as though I only exist and have gotten this far because of her. Most people think it is she and I that are the twins instead of her and her disappeared brother, when in reality she is more like a big sister, confidant, and amazing friend.

Back to the childhood thing. I do remember the day I decided to accept Christ as my Lord and Savior. As a child apparently I would have night terrors, and would wake up screaming not allowing anyone but my mother to hold me. I do remember later on having waking dreams or hallucinations where (and this is where I’m going to lose all of you) dark voices would shout and cuss at me. I would repeatedly have the same dream of noise and that something inevitable about to happen that I could not control. Best (and probably worst) example would be visions of a small train and a large train on a maze of tracks that I knew were going to eventually collide and the small train would be demolished. Another example that won’t make any sense to you would be a sentence or a song with too many words that would run away with itself, exploding into meaningless and uncontainable parts. (Now I feel stupid) But the dreams and the voices continued and nothing would stop them. I asked my mother for help (I was 9 at the time) and not knowing herself, she said I should pray about it and ask for Jesus to fill the spot the voices and dreams occupied. I didn’t fully understand what that meant at the time, but I knew I needed something to make it all stop. Later on during that year, I was sitting by myself in church during the invitation (mom was out of town or something and dad was in choir- which at our church meant you sat behind the preacher in the choir loft until service and the last song was over) and something hit me hard and I knew that I had to get down the aisle to the preacher. I beaconed to my dad, but he didn’t understand at first. After seeing what looked like a kid needing to pee crazy bad, he came out of the loft during the invitation song to see what I needed so bad. I explained that I had to go down the isle and pray with the pastor to let Jesus into my heart. In our church that also meant you had to stand up in the front publicly at the end of service (something I’m pretty sure you all know I wouldn’t do now) and then all the old people came by and shook your hand. They were all full up for baptism that night but I explained that I just had to do it that night, I was so excited.
Anyway, if you’re still with me, that all happened 19 years ago and the voices and dreams stopped entirely. I’ve only had one since when in I was about 12 and in my sleep I heard my clock radio speaking in the same voice accompanied by the dream. 2 seconds later, my clock radio lay in tiny pieces, after instinctively I had thrown and smashed up against the far wall.
I will not tell you what I perceived any of those things to have been. I really don’t think about it or try to analyze and figure it out. I only know the scare that was there and now what resides in my heart instead. And besides that peace, I know

"My sheep hear My voice, and I know them, and they follow Me. And I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; neither shall anyone snatch them out of My hand. My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of My Father's hand.
John 10:27-29."

He "will never leave thee, nor forsake thee."
Hebrews 13:5


Anyway- Fast forward to later in life to where I met the rest of you in college group at church. The first thing I think of when I look back at my most memorable experiences is that time. Although it never felt like I really accomplished or did that much in the grand scheme of things, it was awesome giving everything I had to something as great as that.
#7
Born and raised in the Church. Saved at the age of 5 and truly knew what it was about. It was more than just “this is what I need to do because its what my parents did”… As much as I wanted to be a bad kid and as much as I tried to be bad the Lord never made it easy on me. I always got caught. Always…
When I was 15 I was walking down the street with some friends and they all knew I didn’t smoke or drink. They were cool with it for the most part. One of the girls pulled out $10 and said that it was all mine if I would take just one puff. I was thinking about it when out of the blue my dad pulls up to give me a ride home. He never just gave me a ride home. When I asked what was up he said he had a long lunch and just wanted to give me a ride. My life is filled with people just showing up…
I have been part of big and small churches. Some as small as 15 people… I have seen the power of God work in each setting. It always amazed me to see how God would provide and how He worked in ways that I would never have guessed.
After HS I went to Bob Jones University for a year. It was there that I dug deep and figured out more of what I believed and why.
I still question my faith and am still building on the foundations of what I know to be true. I’m sure this is something I will be doing till the day I die.
#8
Thanks Bob for sharing that with us.

If we didn't continually question our faith, we would never learn anything new about ourselves, God, or his plan for us.
#9
Wow Mike, way to open up. 8) Very touching words you got there. By the way, thanks for always being there for me, too...... you're the one that without any questions, gives me a huge hug anytime I need it :wink: Thanks for being my replacement twin!
#10
And my 'test time' is soon to come! :lol:
#11
Mike I have know you for how long and I just found out some things about you that I didnt know. Thanks for sharing.

I also wanted to thank Fatbob for telling us a little bit about himself.

Thank you both and God bless you.
#12
Wow, thank you for not going back and proof reading it Bill. Usually I am a grammar person but I'll let it slide since I liked reading your testimony. It must have been hard to write the personal stuff to a bunch of strangers but I appreciate you doing it for the cause. You are braver than I as I have not posted mine yet but am getting closer to having to.
Thank you again,
JEN
#13
Well, none of ya'll know me and it is really the first time I have ever really put it out there. I guess, for me, it was easier to people I didn't know.
#14
Indeedily.

It makes you feel all naked and little when you put it all out there sometimes. I know I've felt that way when having to share.

But thanks for the flowing truth and it's always awesome to see the end result no matter how we got where we are with him and how cool it is that he does gives us so many chances and choices. Glad to know all of us and other followers of Him will be in his book no matter how our pages read.
#15
Thanks Bill for your touching testimony. Glad to see that God has worked through you to touch people who have been, or are roughing it, as you did.
#16
Bill,
Thank you very much for posting that, it is awesome to see how far some people have come in their walk with Christ. I dont know about the others but it kinda make me feel special that you have decided to open up to us.

Thank you for sharing

God bless

In him always

Spshl J
#17
ya ever do something that you would normally never do but for some reason it just seems right that time, like He is telling you, Go on son, this is right...........
#18
I think of my childhood as fairly normal. I guess the only part that is obviously not normal is the fact I cannot remember a time that my parents were in the same room together, and they divorced when I was about 11 or so (my brothers don’t have memories of that either.) Don’t get me wrong, my life was not perfect by any means; a lot was kept hidden from me and my brothers (rightfully so).

To begin, I grew up in a “Christian” home and we went to church most every Sunday. I remember sitting up in the balcony like normal and just having this strong urge to go down in front of the church to “proclaim my faith” in front of the church. That day, my family and I walked down to the front of the church. We were introduced and then at the end of the service everyone came by to shake my hand. From there, I was baptized a couple of weeks later. It’s not an intense story by any means but I will extend it by telling the story of how/why we moved to Phoenix and what it’s meant to me.

So how did I get to Phoenix? Well, I’ll tell you. =) I’m just gonna jump right in. It was the summer of ’96 and my mom told me and my brothers to start packing because we would be moving. I assumed that after living in the country for 3 years, we would be moving into the city, a ten-minute drive away. When it came to three days before we were to move, my mom told us she got a job in Phoenix, AZ. We then started saying our goodbyes within that short time. As she had planned we moved to Phoenix. We had no place to live yet; therefore, we stayed at her new boss’s house for about a month until we found our own place.

The three of us were completely miserable and angry with my mom. Not to mention, we weren’t even about to give Phoenix a chance. Life had to resume though, so shortly after our move Andrew and I began our freshman year in high school. My mom had registered us for all of the same classes so we would actually know someone. About one month into our “new life,” Michael, 18 at the time, decided to move back to live with my dad. My dad flew to Phoenix, helped Michael pack his stuff and drove back to Alexandria. He thought that living with my dad would be better than life in Phoenix, but before long he would realize that there was more to being happy.

Andrew soon followed. He started writing my dad several letters telling him about how miserable his life was and expressed his desire to move back. Andrew would ask my dad, “If Michael did it, why can’t I?” and he would tell him that he was working on it, which meant he was setting up a custody battle. Sure enough my mom was subpoenaed to court in Louisiana for November 24th 1996, so we all three flew back. After a couple of hours of sitting and listening to my mom and my dad battle it out, and having the judge read Andrew’s letters out loud, the custody was determined. You’d think that no one in their right mind would think that it would be ok to separate fourteen year old best friends and twins, but that day we were proven wrong. My dad won custody of my brother and he was scheduled to move back in the middle of January. We were very upset with Andrew for having us go through all of this. For the longest time I was mad at him. I used to think, “How could you break away from your other half just to be back in your comfort zone?” and “Why would you do this to me?”

When January came around Andrew left and I was left with only my mom. I was truly by myself now considering I had never been without siblings, especially Andrew. He had been my absolute best friend up until this moment. I was all alone and depressed. After repelling people at school for many months now, it was clear to me that it was time to break out of my shell. I slowly started meeting a few friends at school.

Michael had lived with my dad for a while now and he realized that wasn’t what he wanted. He wanted to have a close relationship with his family, one that my dad had not provided. The last part of June, I flew back to Alexandria to visit. I was very excited, not just to see my friends and family, but also because I would be driving back with Michael. Now it would not be quite as lonely at home.

To sum my shortened story up, I was especially mad at my mom for moving us out here in general, but with such short notice, too. I also was angry with God and at the time I didn’t understand why. We found North Phoenix Baptist Church shortly after moving here but I wanted nothing to do with it. In the beginning, Andrew and I would just ditch Bible study and mess around the campus. Then once he left, I would just have a friend or two from school go to church with me. When Michael moved back we got involved with the college group and finally felt accepted. We also ended up meeting Jared & Jen, not to mention we had a fun couple for our Bible study leaders. Who would’ve known we would still be in contact with these guys. I mean you could practically call them our best friends/Christian example. I am one that believes that everything happens for a reason and I would ask God all the time why Andrew left, but now I just accept the fact that there was a good reason; it brought Michael, my mom and I closer and Michael and I now share the bond that Andrew and I shared long ago. Yeah, I lost my real twin brother, yet it has brought me and Michael so much closer than I could’ve imagined. Not to mention we got some great friends out of the whole deal. =)
#19
Hey ,thanks for the compliment. And thank you sharing your story with us. I loved hearing it. I guess now that you have the heat is going to go up for me by J to post mine. But if you can break out to write something like that than I guess I can figure a way to.
Thank again and love ya.
#20
Awesome