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do you carry concealed? Permit or no-permit... what's the difference?
#1
As many know, Gov. Brewer signed SB1108 into law on in April 2010 and has taken effect on July 29, 2010. The bill extends the ability for Arizona residents, who are at least the age of 21 and can legally posess a firearm, to now carry concealed without a DPS issued CCW Permit.

I am frequently asked, "What does that mean to you and what are the benefits of a CCW Permit?"

There are 5 benefits to having a CCW Permit.

1) Education - the CCW course introduces you to firearms, proper handling, the laws (and consequences), and proper shooting techniques. Education is vital and should be the responsibility of all firearm owners.

2) CCW Permit holders MAY carry their firearm into restarants and bars that serve alcohol (as long as they are not consuming and the restaurant does not have a "no weapon" sign posted).

3) Reciprocity - The SB1108 law only allows an Arizona citizen to carry/conceal in the State of Arizona. CCW Permit holders may carry/conceal their firearms in other States that share in reciprocity. That means your CCW Permit is recognized in 32 States. The States are:

Arizona
Alaska
Arkansas
Colorado
Delaware
Florida
Georgia
Idaho
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Michigan
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
Nevada (starting 7/1/11)
New Hampshire
New Mexico
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio, Oklahoma
Pennsylvania
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
Virginia
West Virginia
Wyoming

Note: Although you may carry your firearm in these other States, you are subject to THEIR laws. An example is: Some States may have a magazine capacity restriction of 10 rounds or less. Some States does NOT allow you to carry in an establishment that serves alcohol. Be aware of their firearm/CCW laws before visiting. Ignorance is no excuse for breaking the law. The penalties are not worth it.

Resource: If you are planning a road trip, visit this site and enter the States you are traveling through. It will let you know if they recognize the Arizona CCW, and if not, links to their laws.

4) Being that you've already been background checked and ran through the NICS (National Instant Criminal Background Check System), you will no longer have to do this process when purchasing a firearm from a FFL dealer.

5) The $60 fee you pay to DPS helps out the State's economy and your permit is good for 5 years. The tuition fee you pay to your instructor helps support his family and business. In all, the fees are good for our Arizona economy. Ok.. a bit of a stretch, but it's true.

Note: When renewing your Arizona CCW, you no longer have to attand the 2 hour refresher course, or resubmit fingerprint cards. All you have to do is fill out the DPS Renewal Application and send in your $43 renewal fee.

Personally, I don't care if you carry a gun in the plain sight or concealed. If you "carry", get yourself educated. Once you made up your mind to carry a firearm and are willing to use it in the defense of self or others, you take on a WORLD of responsibility (and liability). Learn to use your firearm correctly, safely and accurately. Read/Learn the Arizona Revised Statues Title 13, especially chapter 31, that deals with weapons and explosives.


It is my belief that an Armed America is a safer America. Criminals generally choose "easy targets" and are mostly crimes of opportunity. With our new Conceal Carry Law and CCW Permits, criminals now have to think twice about attacking an Arizona Citizen. Most of us are packing guns now!

#2
Another great info post
I carry and have my permit
#3
Great post, I stickied the thread

I have my CCW as well
#4
Woot! After 13 years of being on various forum boards, this is my first Sticky!
#5
2ndchance wrote:Woot! After 13 years of being on various forum boards, this is my first Sticky!


lol


I carry as well, but do not have my CCW for various reasons. But, I am educated and know my gun. I choose to not have my CCW because the less info the government knows about me, the better.
#6
Ha Ha. Too late! The information they gather for your CCW is no different than when you purchased your first firearm from a FFL dealer. It's the same process. If you've ever worked a government job, it's the same process. If you've ever been fingerprinted... same process.

Having a CCW can also be a benefit in the event you actually have to defend yourself and find yourself in a criminal or civil court. It shows that you are responsible and safety conscience.
#7
Don't own a single registered gun, have never purchased from a FFL dealer have never worked a government job and have never been finger printed.
#8
Shame on me! I just updated the original post. There is another benefit of a CCW. No more background checks when purchasing a firearm from a licensed dealer. Also, CCW Renewal no longer requires the 2 hour refresher course or resubmitting fingerprint cards. Just fill out the application and send in the $43 fee.
#9
Repost from AZCDL.Org

It’s official: http://www.nvrepository.state.nv.us/ccw_changes.shtml

Nevada has chosen to honor Arizona CCW permits starting July 1, 2011.

Prior to Nevada recognizing out of state permits in 2007, a Nevada permit was required to carry discreetly. For a brief period Utah and Florida permits were recognized by Nevada, but these states were de-listed in 2009 when Nevada determined they no longer met their requirements.

For the past two years, the best way for Arizona residents to legally carry a firearm in Nevada was by obtaining a Nevada permit. Unlike Arizona, Nevada permits are limited to the general type of firearm you qualify with (semi-auto or revolver) on the shooting test. Training and testing is required for renewals as well as initial permits.

When traveling to Nevada with your Arizona permit, you need to be familiar with Nevada’s firearms laws. Their preemption laws are not as strong as we have in Arizona and there are some localities where the carrying of firearms is restricted.

These alerts are a project of the Arizona Citizens Defense League (AzCDL), an all volunteer, non-profit, non-partisan grassroots organization: http://www.azcdl.org/html/join_us_.html .

AzCDL – Protecting Your Freedom
http://www.azcdl.org/html/accomplishments.html .

Copyright © 2011 Arizona Citizens Defense League, Inc., all rights reserved.
#10
I carry but don't have a CCW. Where is an affordable course to get one?
#11
If you do a google search for "arizona ccw" you will find many instructors out there. Now, there's even a 4-hour course. Prices range from $45-$99. I don't endorse any one particular instructor. Reason: Arizona DPS has a standardized lesson plan. Therefore, no matter who you choose, you will get the same instructional class. Some offer a custom class (like I do) but the cost is more and the class-time is longer. These courses cover the basics for getting a CCW, but also include more detailed instruction on firearm usage and defensive tactics. However, these classes start around $200.
#12
I also carry but don't have a CCW. I have carried for the past 30 years or so. I now carry concealed, but want a CCW
cause I travel to Utah and New Mexico a lot.
#13
In August 2011 some new gun laws will be taking effect. One in particular is Arizona CCW Training Reform. The burden on the Department of Public Safety (DPS) to approve CCW training courses, training organizations, and instructors has been removed. In a nutshell, Arizona law now mirros Florida's when it comes to qualifying for a CCW permit. With the new changes to ARS 13-3112, ways to qualify for an Arizona CCW permit includes:

1. Completion of any firearms safety or training course or class that is available to the general public, that is offered by a law enforcement agency, a junior college, a college or a private or public institution, academy, organization or firearms training school and that is approved by the Department of Public Safety or that uses instructors who are certified by the National Rifle Association.

2. Completion of any hunter education or hunter safety course approved by the Arizona Game and Fish department or a similar agency of another state.

3. Completion of any National Rifle Association firearms safety or training course.

4. Completion of any law enforcement firearms safety or training course or class that is offered for security guards, investigators, special deputies or other divisions or subdivisions of law enforcement or security enforcement and that is approved by the Department of Public Safety.

5. Evidence of current military service or proof of honorable discharge or general discharge under honorable conditions from the United States armed forces.

6. A valid current or expired concealed weapon, firearm or handgun permit or license that is issued by another state or a political subdivision of another state and that has a training or testing requirement for initial issuance.

7. Completion of any governmental police agency firearms training course and qualification to carry a firearm in the course of normal police duties.

8. Completion of any other firearms safety or training course or class that is conducted by a Department of Public Safety approved or National Rifle Association Certified Firearms Instructor.

DPS is still the issuing department, and an application and fingerprint cards will still need to be submitted (along with the application fee). They will still run NCIC background check to validate you are legally allowed to possess a firearm.

So, all you legal gun owners who have taken ANY Hunter Safety Course or are/have served in the military, can just do the required paperwork, pay the fee and get your CCW. Just need to show proof!

Reference:

http://www.azleg.state.az.us/ars/13/03112.htm

http://www.azcdl.org/AzCDL201108a.pdf
#14
When is this in effect? What date? I couldn't find that.
#15
Found out already in effect as of 7-20.
#16
I've had my CCW since Sept and now with the new law can carry in my favorite restaurant again.
#17
I knew this was coming. When we start accepting Hunter's Ed from when you were 10yo as competent training for CCW, this was an inevitable action by many states who share reciprocity or recognition.

March 15, 2013

LAS VEGAS (AP) — Nevada officials say they’re no longer recognizing concealed weapons permits from Arizona after the state relaxed some of its training requirements.

The decision takes effect this week, after a unanimous vote last Thursday from the Nevada Sheriffs’ and Chiefs’ association.

Association officials say Las Vegas firearm instructors first notified them about the changes in the training requirements.

Nevada Department of Public Safety officials say they contacted the Arizona Department of Public Safety and confirmed changes were made in 2010 and 2011.

Those include adjustments to the minimum training requirements, and the elimination of statutory marksmanship and judgmental shooting requirements.

Association officials say the requirements are now too different from Nevada’s for the state to recognize the permits.

Arizona public safety officials didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.


Read more: http://azcapitoltimes.com/news/2013/03/05/nevada-no-longer-recognizing-arizona-concealed-weapon-permits/#ixzz2NjJ1u8C1
#18
too bad they arent retroactive for the permit holders who obtained them prior to 2010