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Bean Nazi?
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Arizona vandals smear swastika made of refried beans into Capitol doors
Mexican president calls Arizona law on immigrants 'racial discrimination'

Vandals smeared a swastika made of refried beans into the glass doors of Arizona's State Capitol building, police in Phoenix told local media Monday.

"While it first looked like mud on the doors, it turned out be refried beans," reported the AZFamily.com Web site, which also asserted that the vandalism was "sparked by the newly signed anti-illegal-immigration law." The site reports:

Capitol police arrived on the scene at about 6 a.m., after a swastika was found smeared on the glass doors of the House and Senate buildings. On the sidewalk, beans were used to write "AZ=Nazi," again with a swastika.

It's not clear when exactly the vandalism happened, but police believe it was some time overnight.

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"That is what happens when there is so much fear and there is so much disappointment," Gustavo Ramirez, a protester from California, told AZFamily.com. "The laws that have been passed, they are Nazi laws. They are not considering humanity. They are a crime against humanity."

Meanwhile, Mexican President Felipe Calderon described Arizona's recently-passed law on immigrants as "racial discrimination."

Calderon said his government would seek to challenge the law, which allows police to question and detain anyone in the U.S. border state they believe may be an illegal entrant.

Calderon said Mexico would "use all means at its disposal" to defend its nationals against what he called a "violation of human rights" and "unacceptable racial discrimination."

He said he had instructed his foreign ministry and Mexico's consulates in the United States to work with legal experts "to defend the rights of Mexicans" in the face of the new law.

Thousands of people marched peacefully in Phoenix on Sunday to express their opposition to the controversial law.

Television images showed the protesters converging on the State Capitol, where they held a rally to denounce the legislation.

The law, signed by Arizona’s Republican Governor Jan Brewer on Friday, allows police to question and detain anyone in the southwestern border state they believe may be an illegal immigrant, even if they are not suspected of committing another crime.

It would also require anyone in the state suspected of being an illegal immigrant to show a document proving their legal status, like a "green card" permanent residency document or a passport.

Opponents of the law say that if police demand papers from someone they suspect of being an illegal immigrant, and they turn out to be a US citizen, their constitutional rights will have been infringed.

US Democratic Congressman Luis Gutierrez urged the demonstrators to keep up pressure on politicians, reminding them that the controversial law would not take effect for 90 days.

"In these 90 days, we will demonstrate our solidarity," he said, addressing the protesters in Spanish. "That’s why we are here."

Demonstrator Jose Acosta told CNN television he was concerned about the new law.

"What is reasonable suspicion? Are we going to get pulled over just because of a broken taillight, or because of the color of our skin?" he asked.

Civil rights leader Al Sharpton said it was people’s moral obligation to stand against this profiling in Arizona.

"Make no mistake about it. This is not a fight between minorities," he said. "This is a fight for justice and fairness for everyone."

-- With AFP

#2
Nice. I think I'll have some today in honor of the new law.
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I found this in my lunch today.

I'm not sure I understand. Did the Jews not pay taxes and draw swasticas out of lentils? That makes more sense now.
#4
Is arizona sending people to death camps?
#5
fatbob309 wrote:Is arizona sending people to death camps?


Maybe that's why there's no one on the corner at Home Depot today?
#6
All those people that are going to be shipped home because of this new law should have voted in better people at the last election... Oh wait... they can't vote... bummer
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humm wonder if I should re-paint & cruz around my hood....

#8
That resembles Alan's XJ
#9
hasn't been wheeled enough to be my XJ. 8)
#10
Had a guy at work claim he was asked for his papers when he was stoped on the way to work today... Not sure if I should get the boots out yet...
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fatbob309 wrote:Had a guy at work claim he was asked for his papers when he was stoped on the way to work today... Not sure if I should get the boots out yet...


What papers was he asked for? Arizona Trib, zig zags I don't get it. People keep saying papers. If you have a driver's license then you should be ok, if not a passport works to along with your out of country driver's license.

No offense meant Bob, I am just irritated with all these people up in arms about this new law. The laws were on the books before but the fed didn't enforce them so now the state is that is all that has changed. Arghhh!!!!
#12
Ha, he was probably asked to show "proof of insurance and registration papers" for his vehicle.
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So the pastor today basically said this bill was a bad thing. He based it on it limiting our ability to reach out and love these people.

I don't really have strong political opinions unless of course there is biblical backing on it being wrong.

I don't really understand this issue though. Enlighten me with your thoughts. Here are my scattered ones:

  • It's not a racial thing since hispanics are more than welcome here. It's about people here illegally right?
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  • And this is nothing new. It was already illegal for them to be here and if they are caught they are already deported. So all this bill ads is the ability to enforce the laws already in place?
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  • Why do they wave Mexican flags at the protest for them to be Americans?
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  • Illegals, even if they have a heartfelt story of how long their family and business have been here don't pay taxes correct? So 10 years of them being here just means they haven't paid for any of the programs, police, streets, emergency services that taxes pay for that they use?
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  • Isn't it at odds that the anti-big govt people are in favor of the govt being able to ask you to proove things to them?
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  • How is being in the country illegally yet adamantly bitter about being treated as illegal at all like being tortured as a Jew?
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  • What is this guy's problem? (at least they get the flags right in California)


    All I see is the media/world saying how bad it is, yet the poll showed a 70% favor.
    The jeep people seem to be on the good bill side while the hike site people are all on the this bill is horrible side, but then again they have a 2 page thread on how horrible it is that the Texas governor shot and murdered a poor coyote that was aggressive towards him while he was out alone.


I just can't wrap my mind around how the pastor made it into a love of races situation.
#14
its okay to disagree with your pastor and still go to heaven :)


the thing I dont like is it forces every person to carry ID or else be arrested. In a free country we shouldn't have to carry around papers saying we are US citizens. Immigration should be enforced on the border, not in the states.
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offroadaz wrote:

the thing I dont like is it forces every person to carry ID or else be arrested. In a free country we shouldn't have to carry around papers saying we are US citizens. Immigration should be enforced on the border, not in the states.


I think you are off on this... You were required to have and produce, if asked for, govt issued ID before this bill was passed. This is nothing new. I have no issue with being asked for ID.
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Mike- I believe it is wrong to preach on political issues. I think its ok to preach on what the bible has to say about it, but do not preach an emotion. This bill in now way said that we should not love the people because they are here illegally. They are still human and should be treated as such.
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fatbob309 wrote:I think you are off on this... You were required to have and produce, if asked for, govt issued ID before this bill was passed. This is nothing new. I have no issue with being asked for ID.




kids under 16? what ID are they going to have?

If im out walking my dog why should I have to carry ID?

Im out with friends and left my wallet at home?

This is going to lead to abuse of power by the PD. Theres nothing in the bill saying they are only going to ask latinos for ID as well.

Im also fairly confident there was/is no law in AZ forcing a US citizen to carry ID. Only thing I know of is it is unlawful to refuse to identify yourself.
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offroadaz wrote:If im out walking my dog why should I have to carry ID?


Because I know like me, you also have your 9mm in your pocket :)
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offroadaz wrote:kids under 16? what ID are they going to have?- state issued id card. Not a DL.

This is going to lead to abuse of power by the PD. Theres nothing in the bill saying they are only going to ask latinos for ID as well.


So you are ok if the law was stated that it is only Latinos being asked. Why? Are they the only ones that that could be breaking the law? Thats a bad path to be on.
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fatbob309 wrote:So you are ok if the law was stated that it is only Latinos being asked. Why? Are they the only ones that that could be breaking the law? Thats a bad path to be on.


nope

shouldnt be required of anyone in the country to carry ID unless operating a motor vehicle or certain other activities

free people shouldnt be forced to produce papers for law enforcement or face arrest. That is not free.

Immigration issues need to be enforced at the border, not in the cities