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Joe West
#41
alanzona wrote:It's not there. You have posts on a LOT of locked threads, though!

That, however, is not one of them. It's gone, baby, gone...


hah thats probably the one that did it then :)g)

I manage to get the site to load once every 15 mins or so. Got another reply in before it timed out
#42
Humm either VJC is VERY slow or Ive been MUed
#43
It's very slow right now... ever since the server upgrade, it's been a little quirky.
#44
says hes applying a msql patch
#45
sites back up

looks like when he did the patch it took me off the MU list

wonder if he knows?
#46
his "patch" was probably uninstalling the hack since so many peopel lost their freakin' minds that something like that (a) even existed, and (b) that the Holy Joe West would even stoop to using something like that - which I find really funny and would use the HECK out of if you ever gave me even a little bit of control on the board... hahahaha}:)
#47
I've invited Joe W to wheel with us on Sunday. I'll be picking him up since he doesn't own a Jeep any more...
#48
Im going to kill you...
#49
:)=):)=):)=)

Obviously, I'm kidding! I'm kidding!
#50
alanzona wrote:How about putting it in the "trade" section and trading for an AO sticker. }:)



Done... just in the new forum. :)=)
#51
I think I may be in MU land now...
#52
that or another "server" upgrade
#53
There are two posts from Joe on the AZ_VJC yahoo groups in regards to the new site. It just became widely known that the new site is up.

I can post or email if anyone is interested.
#54
BrokenCistern wrote:There are two posts from Joe on the AZ_VJC yahoo groups in regards to the new site. It just became widely known that the new site is up.

I can post or email if anyone is interested.


yah, what did he say about it?
#55
It's up on the main site to.
He was a gentleman about it.
#56
He was actually very cool and classy about it. Maybe this can be a peaceful transition... (alan, the eternal optimist) Just let us go our way and he goes his...
#57
offroadaz wrote:yah, what did he say about it?


started with this:

Looks like the BBS is breaking up. There is now a second AZ Virtual Jeep
Club BBS.

<www.azvirtualjeepclub.com>

--
Leonard K. Pennock
AD7AS

Joe Replied:

Lol...

The BBS is not breaking up... This is just another splinter group doing as
they choose... It is a good thing!

Joe

Several others chimed in with interesting comments


Like:

I think that got "censored". :-)

I agree, very interesting. Nice to see part of the group getting back to
it's roots, not trying to make money. Looks like a couple of the "heavy
hitters" from the old days are already over there - Hackle, Joe Darro, etc.
I may have to actually join a web-based-forum (gasp!) and check it out.

-Mike

And this from Don Pryor:

"We wanted to get the Arizona Jeeping Community back to its roots of
talking about Jeeps and Wheeling."

"this board is setup for the Members of the AZ Virtual Jeep Club and
not as a revenue opportunity for anyone including Vendors."

"I have spent the better part of the last 4 years fighting for the
rights of the OHV user in Arizona and on a national level."

"I built this board to help bring us back together after garnering
input from a core group of long time users and also the last remaining
founder of the AZVJC. "

Yea, sure!

You can "see all threads started by"_______ with a simple click and
that function is open to everyone I believe. Their posts say volumes.

I moved here in '02, didn't know a soul and certainly had no built in
biases against ANYONE or ANYTHING. In my time on the internet, since
1978 and having been and am on all kinds of forums from autos to
welding along with many in-between I can honestly say: I have never
seen the absolute HATE, ANGER and DRAMA that has been displayed on our
forum by a handful of folks. I have seen folks beat down many members
on here and its has been the same folks time and time again. That
said its not rare but I think its been the worst and lasted the
longest on this forum.

My experience on forums tells me that those who speak the loudest of
getting back to Jeeps and wheeling are the ones who contribute the
least to it.

Not so strange in that the above words are not rare and in fact I
have seen them on several boards that struggled. On one major board
they had a house cleaning and most of the "old timers" and hate
mongers got the boot. The board has flourished and is bigger than
ever. I can also tell you that there is NO tolerance for the behavior
once displayed. And the mods moderate, if not they are gone. Also
when they show the favoritism that some of our mods showed of late
there were gone.

As one who has been involved in hunting, land and water issues for
over 15 years all I can say is look at the track record of the efforts
that have taken place here in AZ. If past performance is an indicator
of future success or failure we are on the ropes here in AZ and I am
sure soon to be on the mat taking the 10 count.

If that was our "core group" we were rotting from the core out.
Having said that its not a blanket statement of all. There are or so
I feel some good folks there albeit I am at a loss as to why they
would follow such leadership. And I even seen some names there that
surprised me. But nagging in the back of my mind is the old
saying...'see your friends, see you'

SavageSun 4x4
Don
Scottsdale, AZ


And finally this from Joe:

Hi Leonard,

I don't honestly think any polls you may wish to put on the azvjc bbs site
will be productive.
I¹m guessing the response you'd get would likely not be one you would
wish... And in the end I'm sure folks
Might question the legitimacy /validity of such a poll.

The URL belongs to Matt and ultimately, he should do as he feels best.

The Rock Rats page started because they did not like being forced to conform
to the BBS rules... A great reason (in my mind) to start your own site.

Their new site (I suspect anyway) will be much more free (literally and
figuratively). Say what you want, post what you want... In fact, behave how
you see fit.
I think this type of format is preferable to some people... It just doesn¹t
happen to fit how I believe people should act.

The beauty of this free market is that in the long run; the concept which
more closely fills the needs of the members of the Arizona Virtual Jeep Club
will rise to the top...
And the format that fails to fill the needs will languish in relative
obscurity.

What's neat about this is; it is all good.

If in the end, the vision I have of the Virtual Jeep Club does not
survive... It simply means that I was able to provide a stepping stone to
something bigger and better...

Ultimately... I find honor in being part of the path.

Joe
#58
Thanks, Broken...

Here's what Joe posted in the VJC:


Another splinter group has begun... make sure you give them a visit.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi Gang,

Another group has splintered off (I think mostly rockrats but I'm not sure)... administered by one of our former moderators (Jack Hickman). I suspect a few members of our site who want to have more freedom to act as they please will enjoy Jack's new site.

You can find their webpage here:

http://www.azvirtualjeepclub.com/

I believe they are completely (or mostly) uncensored (i.e. you can pretty much use whatever language you want and post whatever you want) and they aren't charging to sponsor (meaning you can sell your stuff for free).

If you think the AZVJC website is too conservative... you may want to give the rockrats site a look... those of you who want to have total freedom may find their site more appealing than this one.

I wish them the best of luck!

Please DO NOT bash them or complain in this thread. Their leaving is a good thing as it gives them the freedom they need (something I simply couldn't allow here).

If this turns into a thread bashing them... I'll close it and delete the posts... we've had MANY splinter groups form from the AZVJC... and most of them are really REALLY great groups.

Joe



Here was Bob's response:

Thanks Joe!
Its a wheeling splinter. There is no off topic section it all about trail runs and trail clean ups.

I hope to see you over there... you need to get some ideas for that new Jeep once you are out of school... again.
#59
Wow, sometimes I just feel bad for people who "design" things.

Like the banners they proposing for the old VJC site. :?:
#60
Details, please?

I don't go to the "other site" anymore, so I have no idea what you are talking about, but I'm always curious about someone who designs poor crap. Call it a morbid facination... :red|